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And it CONTINUES
More in response to the Twilight rant.
My message to her:
Um, hi. Just wanted to reply to your comment in my Twilight blog without starting another mess in the comments.
First off, there was no need to call anyone an "idiot" for not liking a series of books. And I was hardly "abusing" anything with that rant.
Secondly? You ask me to do research about abusive relationships? I have. Mostly because I was IN one. Many of Edward's actions (cutting Bella off from her friends, directing what she can and can't do "for her own good" and especially the incident where he locks her in the house) are TEXTBOOK emotional abuse. He never hits her. He doesn't have to.
There is a huge difference between being a gentleman and being an abusive, controlling jerk. Edward crosses that line many times in the series.
I suggest YOU do some research about the difference between abuse and romance, because it's more dangerous to confuse them the way you have. I say this because I did at one point and am still dealing with the psychological fall out.
If he really loved her he wouldn't treat her like property the way he does, he wouldn't treat her like a child even to protect her.
As for being "bitter" about being a better writer? Meyer IS a weak writer. Enjoying the books is not a problem, enjoy them all you want, be recognize the faults. Her writing is weak and Edward is hardly a catch.
I'm sure if you do reply you're going to tell me how wrong I am. But I'm going to end with this: if I need a better psychologist, it's all because of what my own "Edward" did to me. And I'm angry because I don't want to see girls like you or anyone else go through what I did all because they were condition by a society that accepts that kind of treatment of women.
HER RESPONSE TO ME:
It may be to your utter amazement, but you are not the only one who has been through abusive relationships and i am entirely capable of tell the diffrence.
As for you being and idiot, it is the way that you say things that pronounces that, not your actuall personality.
You might wat to read twilight with a bit more depth and a little less bias before you start deciding what is and isnt abusive, rather then just take it out on someone because you cannot handle you own feelings.
and you may want to do your research on Edward a little better too, because it is quite obvious that you have no idea of his reasoning. It really does show that much.
And stephenie is no where near a weak writer and i think that you may want to think about your emotions, because i bet that theyre green.
i have no intention of telling you how wrong you are because its hardly necessary to state obvious conclusions. Opinions are a bit more complicated to summerize.
Ive been through what you have in my own way and the gives me the same creadits as you hold above your head in my opinions, you may also want to think that through.
It may also be noted that Bella never did let Edward control her that that Edward did eventually get over his own bloody ego. Which even i'll admit is big.
I'd check over your bok of definitions, sugar.
OKAY, FUCK YOU MEYER. YOU FUCKING WIN. YOU HAVE PROVEN TO ME THAT YES, AN ENTIRE GENERATION OF WOMEN HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP TO EXCUSE ABUSE BECAUSE THE GUY IS HANDSOME AND SAYS HE LOVES THEM WHEN IT'S ALL OVER. I'LL JUST BE BACK IN THE KITCHEN MAKING MY HUSBAND DINNER. YOU FUCKING BITCH.
EDIT: MY RESPONSE TO HER RESPONSE:
You've been over what I have in your own way?
Darling, you're 16 years old. Please come back and talk to me when you've:
-been in a relationship of 3 years
-been denied access to money you earned at your own job
-been isolated from your own family because your significant other doesn't like them...and they dislike him
-been forbidden from going out with friends without your significant other with you because s/he doesn't trust them
-been forbidden from expression [sic} your opinions because "You're thinking like a feminist."
-been trapped and denied the ability to procure a driver's license or state ID.
If you have gone through that at your young age, I'm sorry. But if you've gone through that and still defend Edward as none-abusive? Sweetie, YOU need the better therapist. Come back and talk to me when you've got some life experience and a degree.
More in response to the Twilight rant.
My message to her:
Um, hi. Just wanted to reply to your comment in my Twilight blog without starting another mess in the comments.
First off, there was no need to call anyone an "idiot" for not liking a series of books. And I was hardly "abusing" anything with that rant.
Secondly? You ask me to do research about abusive relationships? I have. Mostly because I was IN one. Many of Edward's actions (cutting Bella off from her friends, directing what she can and can't do "for her own good" and especially the incident where he locks her in the house) are TEXTBOOK emotional abuse. He never hits her. He doesn't have to.
There is a huge difference between being a gentleman and being an abusive, controlling jerk. Edward crosses that line many times in the series.
I suggest YOU do some research about the difference between abuse and romance, because it's more dangerous to confuse them the way you have. I say this because I did at one point and am still dealing with the psychological fall out.
If he really loved her he wouldn't treat her like property the way he does, he wouldn't treat her like a child even to protect her.
As for being "bitter" about being a better writer? Meyer IS a weak writer. Enjoying the books is not a problem, enjoy them all you want, be recognize the faults. Her writing is weak and Edward is hardly a catch.
I'm sure if you do reply you're going to tell me how wrong I am. But I'm going to end with this: if I need a better psychologist, it's all because of what my own "Edward" did to me. And I'm angry because I don't want to see girls like you or anyone else go through what I did all because they were condition by a society that accepts that kind of treatment of women.
HER RESPONSE TO ME:
It may be to your utter amazement, but you are not the only one who has been through abusive relationships and i am entirely capable of tell the diffrence.
As for you being and idiot, it is the way that you say things that pronounces that, not your actuall personality.
You might wat to read twilight with a bit more depth and a little less bias before you start deciding what is and isnt abusive, rather then just take it out on someone because you cannot handle you own feelings.
and you may want to do your research on Edward a little better too, because it is quite obvious that you have no idea of his reasoning. It really does show that much.
And stephenie is no where near a weak writer and i think that you may want to think about your emotions, because i bet that theyre green.
i have no intention of telling you how wrong you are because its hardly necessary to state obvious conclusions. Opinions are a bit more complicated to summerize.
Ive been through what you have in my own way and the gives me the same creadits as you hold above your head in my opinions, you may also want to think that through.
It may also be noted that Bella never did let Edward control her that that Edward did eventually get over his own bloody ego. Which even i'll admit is big.
I'd check over your bok of definitions, sugar.
OKAY, FUCK YOU MEYER. YOU FUCKING WIN. YOU HAVE PROVEN TO ME THAT YES, AN ENTIRE GENERATION OF WOMEN HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP TO EXCUSE ABUSE BECAUSE THE GUY IS HANDSOME AND SAYS HE LOVES THEM WHEN IT'S ALL OVER. I'LL JUST BE BACK IN THE KITCHEN MAKING MY HUSBAND DINNER. YOU FUCKING BITCH.
EDIT: MY RESPONSE TO HER RESPONSE:
You've been over what I have in your own way?
Darling, you're 16 years old. Please come back and talk to me when you've:
-been in a relationship of 3 years
-been denied access to money you earned at your own job
-been isolated from your own family because your significant other doesn't like them...and they dislike him
-been forbidden from going out with friends without your significant other with you because s/he doesn't trust them
-been forbidden from expression [sic} your opinions because "You're thinking like a feminist."
-been trapped and denied the ability to procure a driver's license or state ID.
If you have gone through that at your young age, I'm sorry. But if you've gone through that and still defend Edward as none-abusive? Sweetie, YOU need the better therapist. Come back and talk to me when you've got some life experience and a degree.