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Thursday, July 17th, 2008
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12:48 pm - An Ending for Breaking Dawn
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| Monday, July 14th, 2008
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9:32 am - My Chemical Romance vrs. Stephenie Meyer
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No, not really. 'Cause that would be kinda awesome, ya know?
Anyway, on her official site, Stephenie Meyer has playlists for each of her books. Yes, folks, that's right. She really IS what happens when you give a bad fanfic author a publishing deal. You get an epic Mary Sue with terrible gender politics and her playlists filled with the most mainstream alternative rock out there.
Not totally knocking her taste in music. I myself enjoy Linkin Park and My Chemical Romance, both of whom she abuses on her playlists. But what I find hysterical is that she'd include My Chem on there. Because it means she obviously knows fuck all about the band.
First of all, it is a band full of fucking FEMINISTS. Gerard Way has spoken out openly about the objectification of women and his distaste with it, Ray Toro has a fantastic quote about how most guys would only be interested in a girl's brains if they bounced on her chest when she ran. Gerard is married to an outspoken, artistic girl who would never put up with the sort of shit Bella takes from Edward.
But more than that...remember how Smeyer mentioned that she doesn't know shit about vampire mythology? And that she gets upset when vampires are portrayed differently from hers?
A quote, from Gerard Way himself:
Yeah, obviously we use vampires as a metaphor for something else, something deeper than just the supernatural. But there's just something about the bloodsucking walking dead, that can say so much to people. There are really so many people trying to get control over you on a daily basis and steal your soul in some way, take a part of you...
...*fangirls harder*
Smeyer, face it. Vampires were the best metaphor for abusive relationships you could have used.
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| Sunday, July 13th, 2008
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9:36 am - The more I read...
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| Wednesday, July 9th, 2008
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11:33 pm - Dissecting the Twilight cover of Entertainment Weekly:
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Please be warned. The cover is under this cut. I'm assuming from the cover shoot that hints are being given as to the events in Breaking Dawn. As per Meyer's insane requests, I'm warning you and preparing to have this blog removed:
( This could be triggering. )
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9:14 am - A Message from the New Queen of Vampire Batshittery!
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From her official website:
Speaking of spoilers, I want to ask you guys for a favor. As we saw with Eclipse (not to mention that last Harry Potter book), there is always the potential for copies of the book to be leaked early. My publisher is doing everything they can to prevent this, but there is only so much that can be done. This is the favor: if someone, somewhere, somehow, gets a copy early, I'm asking you to please not post any spoilers on the internet. And if you see something, please don't spread it around. Breaking Dawn was meant to be experienced in a certain way*, and I would hate for someone to get that experience ruined by seeing something online they didn't want to see. My fans have been super cool about this in the past—last year in particular you guys went above and beyond to protect Eclipse until the release date—and I hope that we'll have the same positive experience this year.
If somebody does post a spoiler (and remember there will be a lot of hoaxes out there—do not believe everything you read: Bella gets eaten by a polar bear, anyone?), I'd love your help in getting them taken down. My publisher has set up a special e-mail account, bdcopyrightviolation@hbgusa.com, for fans to alert us to spoilers that appear online. PLEASE only send links to spoilers. E-mails about events, contacting me, etc. will not be returned.
Another thing you may notice close to the release of Breaking Dawn is that the message boards on several fansites will be taken down. They are doing this as a favor to me because I want to protect you all from stumbling upon something that could ruin the book for you. There will be plenty of time to discuss all the details of the book after August 2nd.
Oh Steph. Now you're just making me want to go around posting fake spoilers on different boards. Stuff like "Jacob accidentally kills Bella and she dies in Edward's arms." Or "Bella has to kill Edward to save herself and his family." Or "Bella fakes her death to be with Edward, but he realizes it too late and kills himself but then she wakes back up and realizes what he did and she kills herself!"
...wait...here we go. I'm declaring this my official Breaking Dawn spoiler. Share with your friends.
JACOB KILLS DUMBLEDOR ON PAGE 606!!!!!
Created with this lovely bit of internet glee.
*Is that way "with eyes bleeding profusely over your purple prose, lack of a decent editor and fuck all in the way of characterization?" 'Cause sweetie, that's how ALL your fucking books read.
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| Tuesday, July 8th, 2008
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10:37 am - Edward Cullen: Also into Cats
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So, after yesterday's write up in my buzznet (which finally forced Miss Random to get one, ha-ha!), my friend Gwen brought up an interesting point:
But... but... but... vampires are sexual.... feeding is simply a metaphore [sic] for sex... did she MISS that!?!?!?!?!
Oh wait, right, never mind, she missed EVERYTHING ABOUT VAMPIRE MYTH EVER!!!
To be fair, in older Slavic mythology vampires weren't sexual beings. In fact, one old folktale has the vampire not drinking blood but eating the dead flesh of a corpse in a church. And originally vampire myths had more to do with fear of the walking dead coming back to get the living than with sex (medical technology at the time couldn't tell the difference between comatose or nearly dead and actually physically dead, meaning some people were buried alive...it's a whole thing).
BUT since Palidori and Stoker at least, vampires have been symbols of sex and especially in Stoker's case the presence of sex in a sexually repressed society. Dracula symbolizes the fear in Victorian England that foreigners would come and taint English blood and take their women. Dracula as a novel also seemingly reinforces the traditional gender roles: when Lucy becomes a vampire rather than doing the good, English thing and being a pure woman who gave birth to children (there was a certain amount of philosophy in that time where your wife was the sacred, pure and seemingly virginal mother of your children who you had sex with for procreation. If you wanted sexual pleasure? Whores) she feeds on children. Gasp, shock, horror, you get the idea.
But ANYWAY, yeah. Feeding in vampire mythology has become a metaphor for sex and sexual activity.
And in Twilight, Edward feeds on wild cats.
...so, if we look at this metaphorically, Edward Cullen is also into caaaaats into bestiality.
Of course, all of this information about the history of vampire mythology would come as a shock to Smeyer, who stated in an interview:
Basically, I'm a coward. So I'm not at all informed about the horror genre, and I don't think it's influenced my writing. I've never considered Twilight a horror novel, though. To me, it's a romance. Still, I wasn't intending to publish the story, or even to make a finished book of it. I was just writing for my own enjoyment, and it wasn't until I knew that Twilight would be published that I began to think about whether my vampires were too much the same or too much different from the others. Of course, I was far too invested in my characters at that point to be making changes*. I wasn't very familiar with the canon, in any case, because I don't read horror novels (ironic**, I know). So I didn't cut out fangs and coffins and so forth as a way to distinguish my vampires; that's just how they came to me.
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* Kill all your darlings, dear. This has about five different applications in your case. If you are so over-invested in your characters that you can't make changes to them? That's a problem. Good authors, by which I mean the non-Laurel K. Hamilton sort, realize that while their characters are very, very real to them, they are not real people. And becoming over-invested or obsessed with your characters can make your writing lazy and can lead you to the excuse of "they just did whatever they wanted!"
Good rule of thumb: something you write for yourself that means that much to you should never be published, unless it's posthumously.
**You're an author. You should fucking know what irony is. THIS IS NOT IRONY.
Here's another tip: if you are a professional author? At least Wikipedia your facts. That way you can say you put forth some kind of an effort.
Once again, feel free to link Smeyer here. Destroying her soul has become my calling in life.
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| Monday, July 7th, 2008
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8:23 pm - Cullen Cults Has Locked Down :(
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So my friends at the Cullen Cults have locked down their boards so I can no long see them accuse me of being a bitch-dyke-feminist who can't get laid so I hate Edward Cullen and all men.
You also have to take a quiz to get in. I'll take it right here:
1. Which Cult/Pack would you like to be a part of? Explain. (Please specify, not just "vampire cult" say something like, "I'd like to be in Esme Cult because I am motherly and friendly like she is." I'd like to be part of Alice's cult because she's about the only character in the books I don't constantly want to shove a gag in or bitch slap. But generally, I think the right answer here is obvious: I'd like to be in that polygamist cult in Texas 'cause I bet it's a great place to meet guys like ♥Edward♥.
2. Fire or Ice? Again, explain.
There's a fire in ice
There's a cooling peace in fire
There's a midnight light to show the way
The burning flame becomes a funeral pyre
The dark was more enticing than the day.
That's by L.J. Smith from her Nightworld series. Specifically "The Chosen." It's a series of books about women who meet vampires and don't respond by doing things like giving up their entire lives or nearly drowning in their soup.
3. Forks or LaPush? Bitch, PLEASE. If I'm on the West Coast, I'm in San Diego.
4. What is your favorite activity out of the following?
a. Around the house stuff. Fixing up things, painting, sanding. Whatever.
b. Sports. All sports.
c. Saving lives.
d. Studying, or something military related.
e. Shopping.
f. All things automobile.
g. Music.
h. Trying not to get killed would be nice.
i. Running with a wolfish group of friends.
...I don't see "masturbation." Why isn't "masturbation" an option? How about "ranting angrily at author's who hate their vaginas?" No? Um...then g, I guess. But only if I can sing some songs of the Confederacy!
5. Who is your favourite Cullen/Werwolf? You misspelled "Werewolf." This invalidates this entire quiz. I'd like to post on your board now, please.
6. Bella as an immortal or a mortal? Bella as an independent woman capable of making her own decisions and living on her own for a few years before she settles down right out of high school with a psychotic man-boy. Not to be confused with manbearpig, Mr. Gore.
7. Which book is your favourite? Why so? The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood. A fantastic story about what happens when religious extremists take over and run the world they way they think paradise would be.
Oh, you meant of Meyer's books? Um...well...I guess in Twilight I didn't realize how fucking batshit insane she was?
8. If you could spend the day with a character OTHER than one in your desired cult/pack or favourite character, who would it be? Why? Those girls that Bella blew off in favor of her glittery boy-toy. I feel bad for them.
There's my answers! Tell your friends! Link Smeyer to me!
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7:19 pm - They just...keep...talking...
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hey do you remember me from last night? i am CarmenCullen:) from CullenCults.
You are such a bitch! why do you hate Twilight so much?
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I've outlined my issues with the books in detail both in my blog and in comments on this site.
In case you didn't get it, here's the deal: Stephenie Meyer is a mediocre to poor writer who's books encourage and excuse abusive relationships. If you can't see that? I wish you all the Edward Cullens you can find. Let me know if you find it romantic when he cuts your breaks, dear :D
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Okay, so you really think that he is abusive? Whatever! He is everything you wish you had. And yes, I will find my Edward and NO he will not be abusive.
And for future reference, HE DOESN'T HAVE FREAKING FANGS!
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No, actually. I wish I had a guy who respects my intelligence, treats me well, doesn't separate me from my friends and loved ones, doesn't throw fits and break televisions just because I made a choice he doesn't like and isn't a 100 year old virgin.
I suggest you do a little research into what "emotional abuse" is before you start dating, child. And maybe your parents shouldn't let you onto the internet unattended in the future.
I really can't believe I just pulled the age card. But when a 14 year old girl with shitty taste in books starts telling me what's wrong in my love life? I'm not okay with that.
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11:32 am - Crossposted from Buzznet: My Pressing Twilight Question
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Edward Cullen "died" at the age of 17, right? And has been physically 17 for almost 100 years.
 DAZZLE ME HARDER, RPATZ! UNF UNF UNF!
Think about your average 17 year old boy. Even your above average 17 year old boy.
Actually, I really think it was said best in that GOOD teenage vampire series by Joss Whedon:
Cordelia: Do guns make you wanna have sex?
Xander: I'm 17, linoleum makes me wanna have sex. Okay, so we know that Edward hasn't felt ANYTHING for ANYONE until Bella. And because in Meyer's universe, love and sex are equated and having sex without true love and marriage is BAD, NAUGHTY, WRONG, TERRIBLE, CANDLE SALAD, this implies Edward Cullen is more than likely a virgin.
LOL 100 year old virgin. They really should have gotten Steve Carell to play the part in the movie.
 Hey, Carell dazzles me, you tasteless plebes! Just check out his glistening topaz orbs!But besides that, Meyer's projected morality on the books is obvious. Sex hurts women, you don't do it until after you're married, it's scary bad-wrong and icky icky icky. So does that extend to masturbation? In other words, is Smeyer REALLY trying to convince me that someone who has been a 17 year old boy for over 100 years has really NEVER FLOGGED HIS DOLPHIN? Edward has never beat his meat, shook hands with little Eddie, pet his ferret, played with his willie? COME ON. I can suspend disbelief when it comes to vampires. Unfortunely, as many young Twilight fans have shown me, I don't have to suspend disbelief when it comes to a woman being stupid and spineless enough to stay in an extremely emotionally abusive relationship just because he's OMG so hawt and says he loves you when it's all over. Am I hurting your soul, Stephers? Want me to twist the knife deeper by saying that Bella is your blantant and poorly written Mary Sue and that your little scene where Bella hit Jacob and broke her hand was basically saying women shouldn't defend themselves from unwanted sexually advances because it'll hurt them more in the end? What the fuck was Bella supposed to do, Steph? Lie back and think of *dazzle?* But anyway, I can suspend disbelief so far. But I cannot truly believe that anyone, male or female, who is physically 17 for that long could really have gone 100 years without masturbating. And Bella, I know you're not real, but here's a suggestion: buy a vibrator. They make glittery ones. It'll probably be better for you than your first time with Edward. 'Cause if he's gone that long, well, let me put it this way: you'll be humming Missy Elliot's " One Minute Man" for the next three weeks.
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| Monday, June 30th, 2008
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6:00 pm - Call to arms
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About an hour ago I was ready to kill myself. I was ready to do so out of my own perceived weakness, out of my fear that I am nothing more than a husk worthy only of those sorts of men that want to project on me whatever they want. Something that is so broken all men want to do is fix her, but by rebuilding her into whatever they want.
And then I decided not to do that. Because either it wasn't worth it or I'd just blown $60 on tickets to Warped Tour. Either way. So I got online. And I came across this:
Edward does love Bella more than anything in the world and if he didnt he would have killed her by now as for the whole friends thing he eventually gives in there in fact and cant keep her from anything bc he hates to see her in pain or angry. sure Edward is overprotective but that is hardly controlling. People dont love Edward for his look (though that is a plus) they love him because he cares so much for Bella. And to be honest the real problem lies with Bella. She keeps running to Jacob which hurts Edward and the whole cullen family and in turn hurts Jacob too by giving him hope than crushing him time after time. In the end Bella has hurt everyone around her including herself and this could have all been prevented by honoring Edwards wishes.
I am sick and tired of watching Stephenie Meyer's continued contributions to the dumbing down and tranquilizing of young women. I am sick and tired of her thinly veiled Mormon propaganda pushing young women to hate and fear themselves, their sexuality and the thought of leaving the house without their knight in "dazzling" armor.
I don't know when it went out of style to be the strong girl, to be the one who decided for themselves, who didn't have to "honor his wishes" in all things because it might upset him. If not honoring his wishes causes him to go into fits, then he's not a handsome prince, he's a violent sociopath and you need to get away from him.
Every time I see a girl profess how amazing Edward's love for Bella is or how perfect they are together, except for the fact that "she's so dumb!" I want to scream, then I want to cry. Because what are these girls learning? They are at fault for everything that goes wrong in a relationship because they were dumb, or they were headstrong, or they wanted something that the boy wouldn't give. They're being force-fed pure misogyny and not only is the world accepting it, they're eating it up. They're casting movies and letting the author show her crazed face all over talking about how wonderful it is to see her dream become a reality.
And what dream would that be, Stephenie? Would it be the dream of a world where young women know their place. You talk about the dream that inspired Twilight, now let me tell you about one of my own:
I had a dream where I was being led through some kind of prison. I knew instinctively that I was some kind of rebel, that my rebellion had nearly fallen through. That the other girls I had been leading and protecting had been captured and given into torture, siding with the enemy.
And then, I watched as my captors, also women, destroyed my military fatigues and told me that as a good girl I wouldn't need them anymore.
Stephenie Meyer, your dream world is my fucking nightmare.
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| Wednesday, June 25th, 2008
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12:59 pm - As if Twilight Wasn't Scary Enough
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| Monday, May 5th, 2008
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9:33 am - Further Twilight Comments:
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i'm sorry , but most of the people who wrote on here ARE most definitely overreacting.
yes , granted , everyone is entitled to their OWN opinions , but you can't post something like this about a book that is no doubt EXCELLENT and expect people to follow along with your opinions and i mean , come on , you had to expect some people to get mad.
stephenie myer is a great writer and i think it's wrong for so many people to be saying she's not.
especially since alot of the people on here haven't even read the books.
newageamazon : you're being pigheaded and stubborn.
i agree with you completely about there not being anything romantic about abuse and there is DEFINITELY no excuse for abuse to go on. whether it's emotional , physical , sexual or mentally.
but ; you can't let what you've seen in the past or what's happened in the past make you into a bitter person and/or think that any type of relationship that you read about or watch has some type of abuse behind it.
and if you watched buffy or angel on a regular basis , you would realize that angel isn't always the best boyfriend type anyways.
i love both angel and spike from the angel &the buffy series ; but if you're telling people that they're better off liking someone like angel , then you really must have something against stephenie myer or the twilight series in general.
if i recall correctly ( and i know i do ) angel and buffy got into quite a few fights , and i mean that as in fist fights. not to mention the fact that angel was also very controlling he ALSO left because he thought it would 'be better for buffy.'
so you see , there is nothing wrong with the FICTIONAL (and i stress that word greatly) character ; edward cullen.
get over whatever grudge you have with two people being in love.
AHA ... now that actually makes more sense.
i think that in fact your past HAS made you bitter &mean and you really don't like the fact that edward and bella AAAARE in love.
wowww...i think that really must be what it is.
ahahaha.
well , whatever. i'm done with MY rant.
peaaaace. :]
My reply:
Tamora Pierce liked my rant.
Tamora Pierce >>>>>> you
EDIT: LOLTWILIGHT
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| Friday, February 29th, 2008
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10:01 pm - This is the End
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I have received the final reply from Twilight Girl.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is fucking HYSTERICAL:
There isnt really much use arugueing with you anyway because you act like a six year old. Its hard to take you seriously when you act so immature. and you might what to fix your spell check because it apperars not to be working.
I think that you may have maturity issues for your age because your messages are very childish.
I have read alot more then you, trust me and i dont believe that youve read too much at all, so assuming that i havent is very silly and irrational.
I think that you may want to review your views through another lens because you own experiences judge too much of what you do and it doesnt allow YOU to be objective, so i dont see how you van come up with an arguement when you are mentally incapable of actually being objective.
And you might want to recheck the side of rabit sweetie.
And your opinions might be a little more readable if you actually said them fairly maturely, something obviously beyond you as you still havent managed.
And you might want to think of ecactly whos being insulted because if you actually work on it, i think that you can figure it out. And im not too interested if people dont like the same things that i do, but that doesnt mean that they have to be so childish about the way that they say things.
And idiots refers to the way that peopel are saying things, not to the opinions themselves. So its another opinion so why dont you mull that over a while.
And i have been the one who has been keeping things "civil" in the last few messages and god knows that logic doesnt actually work on you and nor does the fact that once i was a little less pissed i tried being polite, something that you graciously did not return.
It has been very amusing talking to you and has also been on of the funniest things that i have ever done (by your replies)
Hope that your legs get longer then your head (and it might take you a while to work that out sorry)
Good luck with it.
I love that a 16 year old girl who says Stephenie Meyer is the best writer EVER is insisting she's better read than the 25 year old girl with a B.A. in English. And that I didn't argue maturely with her. Or that I haven't tried to explain myself logically (I'm sorry, was bringing in college level lit theory not trying to argue logically? Apparently if I had called her an idiot that would have worked better.).
I am STUNNED. With LAUGHTER.
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| Saturday, February 23rd, 2008
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1:52 pm - ...holy hell
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So, remember how I posted this?
The girl has continued to argue with me.
And while I have kept it private on buzznet, I'm not keeping it private here. I won't name names...but yeah. It's...yeah.
HER RESPONSE TO MY LAST RESPONSE:
Yes to everything bar the drivers licence, though getting a passport was a hassle. i may be 16, but ive been through alot more then any normal 16 year old. im not proud of it either, but i wouldnt change it, its made me who i am. i could also note that i do psychology as a subject.
And my 'therapist' (turn that into two words) was one of my abusers, so i dont go then anymore.
I have enough 'life experience' to last me a while and i still defend Edward. I do agree that he's an egomaniacle bastard, im not blind enough not to note that, and that he does have a flaw of going to extreams, but i still dont believe that he's abusive.
How much and of which of the books have you read exactly?
MY RESPONSE TO THIS:
First of all, please. Spell check. It is very VERY difficult for me to take your argument seriously when it look so childish. I don't care if you use grammar check or not, but spelling would really help you not look like...well, a petty teenager yelling at me for not liking a series of books.
I have read the entire series and I'm sorry, I can't see Edward as anything other than emotionally abusive towards her. We're not talking about flaws, flaws are one thing. We are talking about being able to go down a checklist of
symptoms/evidence of an emotionally abusive relationship and being able to check off over half of them in reference to Edward Cullen. I don't think he means to be that way towards Bella, I just think it's how he is, it's his personality.
The problem is, Bella not only accepts it, but seems to revel in the fact that once she has Edward she doesn't need anything other than being his and being with him forever. She has no ambition past him, he is her WORLD. And THAT'S a problem.
I have a feeling we are not going to see anywhere NEAR eye to eye on this. Considering you seem to think I'm mentally deficient for not liking Meyer's weak writing (and yes, I do mean weak. There's nothing wrong with enjoying her books, but you have to see them for what they are. She is a mediocre writer who wrote a series that a lot of people enjoy. Rowling is the same way, and please note I'm a huge Harry Potter fan. Liking an author but seeing their flaws is not a crime or a sin...it's just truth) and I'm pretty sure you have only come to this site to harass me and others about our opinions.
Also, I'm going to add again: there was a disclaimer on that post. If you and your friends from your message board (if you came from where I think you came from) can continue to think I'm a moronic feminist, but I'm going to sort of roll my eyes at your inability to follow simple suggestions and directions.
HER RESPONSE (bolding is mine):
You've gone so low as to get at my typing when your own isnt that much better? You must be scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Edwards personality is to over-react to simple situations and go to extreams, but im yet to see how that makes him abusive. If you have actually managed to read Eclipse then you should have noted that about half way through the book he changes his act and begins to trust Bella,
also, as much as i like jacob, werewolves are violate and there is a dangerous vampire out to rip Bella to shreads. If i had a partner whos best friend could kill them if they lost their temper and who had a dangerous creature out after them, i'd be the teeniest bit prone to overprotectiveness too.
As for Bella thinking that Edward is her world, i cant see her point and empathise with her. If you cant then i dont see why you should go and judge that other people are having problems if they can.
As for us two seeing eye to eye, i dont think that we will either, but that isnt going to stop either of us trying to sho wthe other our point now, is it? I have read alot more then most adults have and i have never come across anything NEAR stephenie meyers writings (the closest is Anne Bishop) and i have not just came to this site to harass poeple, im not quite that stupid, and everyone has a right to opinions. (For the record im not a huge harry potter fan, she lost me at the fifth book when she killed of serius)
And what message board do you think i come from exactly becaus ethe place that i come from doesnt think that youre a "moronic feminist" as much as we just think that you and the popele who post on your topic are yet to come up with any valid points that cannot be explained either from the book, stephenies website or normal outside world reasoning.
MY RESPONSE THAT SHE HAS NOT YET READ:
1) I can find the "Shift" key and understand how to use spellcheck. And yes, my typing is better than yours.
2) Once again, I can understand what happens when you make another person your world. BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN THERE. Are you not getting that my experiences with abuse were EXACTLY LIKE BELLA'S SITUATION WITH EDWARD? AND THAT IF YOU GO OVER CHECKLISTS OF WHAT CONSTITUTES EMOTIONAL ABUSE, YOU CAN CHECK OFF AT LEAST 3/4'S OF THEM IN REFERENCE TO BELLA AND EDWARD'S RELATIONSHIP? I can't empathize with Bella because when you decide at 16 years old that your entire world needs to revolve around one man you've known for less than 6 months? It's alarming and frankly ridiculous.
3) WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN YOU HAVEN'T SEEN US OFFER UP EXPLANATIONS? Look, just because an author says "He's not abusive" doesn't mean you can't read it as abusive. John Lennon said "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" isn't about an LSD trip, doesn't mean people don't still read that in. There's a theory called "Death of the Author" which means once an author has put their writing out there for public consumption, they cannot tell people that their reads of the novel are right or wrong, because they are "dead." They've had their chance to put their word out there and while they can comment on the text, what's more important is the readers individual interpretations of a book.
4) You can honestly tell me you think Meyer's prose is stronger than most writers? I don't doubt that you've read a lot, I was well read as a teenager as well, I'm doubting your ability to be objective in your judgments. You like the stories she tells, that DOESN'T MEAN SHE'S A GOOD WRITER.
5) I really don't see why everyone assumes I think Jacob is better for Bella. I think what's better for Bella is moving out on her own for awhile, living her life, and if she's still in love with Edward when she's older, then marrying him and being with him forever. I'm 25. I know people who got married right out of high school who are still with the people they were dating then or who got married right out of high school and are very happy. But most people I know aren't with the person they were with in high school...or who married someone right out of high school and later discovered things weren't working out.
Once again, pulling from personal experience: I was 19 when I got engaged. Years older than Bella. And I was still too young to understand what that meant, I hadn't lived enough to understand what all is out there. While Bella's life has been in danger many times that doesn't mean she knows herself or knows who she really is.
I will say this: in a real world situation, not surrounded by the magical powers of an author to say "And they lived happily ever after" which all authors have and many exercise for better or for worse, I wouldn't see Bella and Edward working out...or I'd see her losing too much of herself in order to be with someone she met as a teenager.
Also, I will mention something else a friend of mine has pointed out: the language being used by yourself and other rabid Edward defenders is almost exactly what victims of abuse will say to defend their abuser. "He loves her! You don't understand her! You can't see how he really is with her!"
And once again, there are many fans of the book who either agreed with me or at least said that while they didn't see my read of it they could understand having a different read of the book. My problem with what you said was that you insisted anyone who didn't like the book was an idiot and that anyone who got anything other than what you got out of the book was reading it wrong.
I may have done something similar in my rant, but that was why I added the disclaimer. You and the others who were so offended choose to read my ranting and respond to it, without seeming to care if you insulted me. Just like I read the Twilight books, was insulted at the portrayal of women in it (which I do not think was intended, I don't think Edward was meant to be written as abusive. I think that Stephenie believes she wrote him as a gentleman...but trust me when I say I am not alone in my theories on Edward. Other people, both people who have studied writing and literature and people who haven't have agreed with me. You might not. The only thing I ask is for you to accept people will not like a book that you like and, while I don't expect this from you, I would appreciate an apology to the people you called idiots in your comment).
This will be the last time I reply to one of your comments. I am somewhat tired of offering up logic and being told that I'm wrong and being clearly insulted when I have tried to keep this private debate between us civil. You have officially tried my patience.
I wish you luck in life and hope that you can address whatever problems/issues life has caused you.
I expect a response along the lines of "YOU'RE NOT REPLYING AGAIN BECAUSE I'M RIGHT!!!!"
Only typed badly.
I know it would be a waste of my time to type up a term-paper style defense of my position. Because people like this girl would still claim I have not offered up any "evidence" that Edward is abusive.
Hi. My name is Ashly. I fear for the motherfucking future.
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| Saturday, February 16th, 2008
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12:04 am - And it CONTINUES
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More in response to the Twilight rant.
My message to her:
Um, hi. Just wanted to reply to your comment in my Twilight blog without starting another mess in the comments.
First off, there was no need to call anyone an "idiot" for not liking a series of books. And I was hardly "abusing" anything with that rant.
Secondly? You ask me to do research about abusive relationships? I have. Mostly because I was IN one. Many of Edward's actions (cutting Bella off from her friends, directing what she can and can't do "for her own good" and especially the incident where he locks her in the house) are TEXTBOOK emotional abuse. He never hits her. He doesn't have to.
There is a huge difference between being a gentleman and being an abusive, controlling jerk. Edward crosses that line many times in the series.
I suggest YOU do some research about the difference between abuse and romance, because it's more dangerous to confuse them the way you have. I say this because I did at one point and am still dealing with the psychological fall out.
If he really loved her he wouldn't treat her like property the way he does, he wouldn't treat her like a child even to protect her.
As for being "bitter" about being a better writer? Meyer IS a weak writer. Enjoying the books is not a problem, enjoy them all you want, be recognize the faults. Her writing is weak and Edward is hardly a catch.
I'm sure if you do reply you're going to tell me how wrong I am. But I'm going to end with this: if I need a better psychologist, it's all because of what my own "Edward" did to me. And I'm angry because I don't want to see girls like you or anyone else go through what I did all because they were condition by a society that accepts that kind of treatment of women.
HER RESPONSE TO ME:
It may be to your utter amazement, but you are not the only one who has been through abusive relationships and i am entirely capable of tell the diffrence.
As for you being and idiot, it is the way that you say things that pronounces that, not your actuall personality.
You might wat to read twilight with a bit more depth and a little less bias before you start deciding what is and isnt abusive, rather then just take it out on someone because you cannot handle you own feelings.
and you may want to do your research on Edward a little better too, because it is quite obvious that you have no idea of his reasoning. It really does show that much.
And stephenie is no where near a weak writer and i think that you may want to think about your emotions, because i bet that theyre green.
i have no intention of telling you how wrong you are because its hardly necessary to state obvious conclusions. Opinions are a bit more complicated to summerize.
Ive been through what you have in my own way and the gives me the same creadits as you hold above your head in my opinions, you may also want to think that through.
It may also be noted that Bella never did let Edward control her that that Edward did eventually get over his own bloody ego. Which even i'll admit is big.
I'd check over your bok of definitions, sugar.
OKAY, FUCK YOU MEYER. YOU FUCKING WIN. YOU HAVE PROVEN TO ME THAT YES, AN ENTIRE GENERATION OF WOMEN HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP TO EXCUSE ABUSE BECAUSE THE GUY IS HANDSOME AND SAYS HE LOVES THEM WHEN IT'S ALL OVER. I'LL JUST BE BACK IN THE KITCHEN MAKING MY HUSBAND DINNER. YOU FUCKING BITCH.
EDIT: MY RESPONSE TO HER RESPONSE:
You've been over what I have in your own way?
Darling, you're 16 years old. Please come back and talk to me when you've:
-been in a relationship of 3 years
-been denied access to money you earned at your own job
-been isolated from your own family because your significant other doesn't like them...and they dislike him
-been forbidden from going out with friends without your significant other with you because s/he doesn't trust them
-been forbidden from expression [sic} your opinions because "You're thinking like a feminist."
-been trapped and denied the ability to procure a driver's license or state ID.
If you have gone through that at your young age, I'm sorry. But if you've gone through that and still defend Edward as none-abusive? Sweetie, YOU need the better therapist. Come back and talk to me when you've got some life experience and a degree.
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| Monday, January 28th, 2008
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